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#1 leigh l

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:24 PM

Is their a step by step guide to changing the glow plugs, think it may be the cause of car smoking?

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 02:46 PM

would be great with a how to! :)
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:42 PM

Tips for removal
Soak around them with WD40 and then drive the car so it warms up. note only do them with a warm car!
When you're done soak them again for about 10 minutes; this will give you time to get the wire off etc.
Firstly you need to use a 1/4" drive with a long reach socket. do not use any bigger drive.
Crack them loose first - shouldn't take much effort really
Next undo them slowly but soon as you feel the tension getting tighter then turn them to tighten back up but only go about half a turn.
Then you turn back to loosen them: only go into the tension a little bit then repeat the process over and over.
Be patient and don't think you can go into the tension more because I guarantee they will end up snapping.
Light movements on the ratchet, and hold the ratchet closest to where the socket fits on when you're undoing, not the furthest end of the bar.
If you are patient they will all come out without any problems.

WARNING IF THE GLOW PLUGS CREAK WHEN YOUR UNDOING THEM DO NOT GO INTO THE CREAK MUCH AT ALL. DONT BE CONFIDENT AND THINK YOU CAN IT MAY END UP IN DISASTER VERY EASILY EVEN IF YOU GOT 3 OF THEM OUT ALREADY DONT TAKE ANY CHANCES COULD END UP COSTING YOU A FORTUNE TO SORT OUT. PATIENCE PAYS OFF!!


Sounds like a job for someone else ;)

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:45 PM

Is their a step by step guide to changing the glow plugs, think it may be the cause of car smoking?

So leigh it was alot less then did it work in a sense it must be glow plugs then an if it was fuel pump shaw it would be worse on demand an i have14000miles old injectors so surely glow plugs it might be only one or two i think there about £30 for set an manifold off an disconect power plugs an screw out an then reverse proceedure putting new ones back
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:51 PM

Tips for removal
Soak around them with WD40 and then drive the car so it warms up. note only do them with a warm car!
When you're done soak them again for about 10 minutes; this will give you time to get the wire off etc.
Firstly you need to use a 1/4" drive with a long reach socket. do not use any bigger drive.
Crack them loose first - shouldn't take much effort really
Next undo them slowly but soon as you feel the tension getting tighter then turn them to tighten back up but only go about half a turn.
Then you turn back to loosen them: only go into the tension a little bit then repeat the process over and over.
Be patient and don't think you can go into the tension more because I guarantee they will end up snapping.
Light movements on the ratchet, and hold the ratchet closest to where the socket fits on when you're undoing, not the furthest end of the bar.
If you are patient they will all come out without any problems.

WARNING IF THE GLOW PLUGS CREAK WHEN YOUR UNDOING THEM DO NOT GO INTO THE CREAK MUCH AT ALL. DONT BE CONFIDENT AND THINK YOU CAN IT MAY END UP IN DISASTER VERY EASILY EVEN IF YOU GOT 3 OF THEM OUT ALREADY DONT TAKE ANY CHANCES COULD END UP COSTING YOU A FORTUNE TO SORT OUT. PATIENCE PAYS OFF!!


Sounds like a job for someone else ;)

Yer reading this i think your right i think i will get parts then garage cant be no longer than 1hr labour
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 07:22 PM

Thanks, Ive bought the plugs but going to get someone to do it, the car smoked on initial start up but ran clear and idled perfectly thereafter then left the car for a bit and turned the car on first time and the car smoked and idle was a little erratic so hopefully its just the plugs, im just eliminating the cheapest options first. will be getting remapped soon so hopefully will all be sorted, the car has done 107000 miles so hoping its not the injectors.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 07:26 PM

Thanks, Ive bought the plugs but going to get someone to do it, the car smoked on initial start up but ran clear and idled perfectly thereafter then left the car for a bit and turned the car on first time and the car smoked and idle was a little erratic so hopefully its just the plugs, im just eliminating the cheapest options first. will be getting remapped soon so hopefully will all be sorted, the car has done 107000 miles so hoping its not the injectors.

OK great let me now how it is when glow plugs fitted :L oh how much were they
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:20 PM

Thanks, Ive bought the plugs but going to get someone to do it, the car smoked on initial start up but ran clear and idled perfectly thereafter then left the car for a bit and turned the car on first time and the car smoked and idle was a little erratic so hopefully its just the plugs, im just eliminating the cheapest options first. will be getting remapped soon so hopefully will all be sorted, the car has done 107000 miles so hoping its not the injectors.



Thought you might like to have a read here if you haven't already. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glowplug. :L
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:38 PM

My ST smoked a bit on cold start up, but I changed the injector seals which cured the problem. BTW Ford didn't list the seals for a 2.2 TDCI, but a trip to a local diesel injector specialist proved fruitful (£5 for a pack of 8) :D
As already stated extreme caution is required when removing the glow plugs as they snap very easily, & that'll leave you in much worse situation.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 10:01 AM

My ST smoked a bit on cold start up, but I changed the injector seals which cured the problem. BTW Ford didn't list the seals for a 2.2 TDCI, but a trip to a local diesel injector specialist proved fruitful (£5 for a pack of 8) :D
As already stated extreme caution is required when removing the glow plugs as they snap very easily, & that'll leave you in much worse situation.


Diesel specialist is possibly the route to go. My local Fraud just seem to want to replace anything and everything.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 02:06 PM

OK great let me now how it is when glow plugs fitted :L oh how much were they



Worked out to be £37 for full set from a local motor factor

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 02:09 PM

Took the car on a long trip after warming up the plugs 4 times before starting and it diddnt smoke at all plus I was averaging 58mpg which I thought was impressive.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 12:37 PM

So you recon the new plugs have helped then leigh?

I have similar symptoms and have always put it down to weapy valve stem oil seals.

I have always been told the glow plugs only really assist with emmission levels unless the temp is well below freezing, but you never know exactly how much these things affect other stuff.

I may well look into a fresh set anyway.
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Posted 24 November 2011 - 12:43 PM

Took the car on a long trip after warming up the plugs 4 times before starting and it diddnt smoke at all plus I was averaging 58mpg which I thought was impressive.


Is that with new plugs or just heating the old ones 4 times?

58mpg??? I cant get above 42mpg anymore :angry: (Although do zero motorway driving)

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:46 AM

Is that with new plugs or just heating the old ones 4 times?

58mpg??? I cant get above 42mpg anymore :angry: (Although do zero motorway driving)



Havnt had the plugs fitted yet, only warmed them up 4 times

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 11:48 AM

Havnt had the plugs fitted yet, only warmed them up 4 times



58mpg was cruise control set at 75mph no short journeys, it goes down to about 40mpg around town.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 11:16 AM

Well its in the garage today having glow plugs changed and inlet manifold cleaned. I will let you all know later if it stops my car from smoking and idling a bit rough when cold

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:20 PM

Well its in the garage today having glow plugs changed and inlet manifold cleaned. I will let you all know later if it stops my car from smoking and idling a bit rough when cold


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 08:07 AM

So far so good, apparently my inlet manifold was caked up quite a bit. I get 1 puff of smoke on start up, probably due to the decat and then it goes away, idling has improved with no smoke even in the mornings and it no longer kangaroos at low revs. hopefully it has sorted my problem

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 10:56 AM

So far so good, apparently my inlet manifold was caked up quite a bit. I get 1 puff of smoke on start up, probably due to the decat and then it goes away, idling has improved with no smoke even in the mornings and it no longer kangaroos at low revs. hopefully it has sorted my problem

Nice one bud. Will be changing these as well soon.

4 times on an off and the EML stays off. Still kangaroos and smokes for about 5secs but think that may be resolved with glow plugs

Long may your smooth running continue.

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